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Episode 388 of The HaltingWinter Podcast
Sponsored by Tyler Technologies
There’s a hard lesson every local government leader eventually learns: Having the right answer doesn’t necessarily mean you’ve led well.
Mark Jackson learned that lesson early in his career.
Now the longtime City Administrator of Story City, Iowa, Mark Jackson once found himself pushing forward a major water project that he knew his community needed. The technical case was solid. The numbers made sense. But he moved too quickly without laying the communication groundwork necessary to bring people along.
The result was a firestorm.
“We learn the science part of it, but not the art,” Mark reflects.
More than three decades later, that lesson continues to shape how he approaches leadership.
In Episode 388 of The HaltingWinter Podcast, Mark joins Seth Winterhalter for a conversation about what decades in the city manager’s chair teach you that no textbook can.
Technical knowledge matters. But so do timing, relationships, communication, judgment, and humility.
One idea Mark has carried with him for years captures that humility particularly well:
“You need to design a system as if you are wrong.”
That doesn’t mean leaders should become afraid to make decisions. Quite the opposite. Mark believes organizations need to empower people to act, accept that mistakes will happen, learn from them, and keep moving.
Because local government rarely gives leaders the luxury of perfect information.
Mark also shares a framework that cuts through much of the complexity surrounding public-sector decisions:
“What benefit, for which people, at what cost?”
It’s a simple question with enormous implications.
Who benefits from this decision? Who bears the cost? What tradeoffs are we making? And are we looking at the issue through the eyes of the people we serve rather than simply through our own expertise?
Those questions become even more important in an environment where public trust is hard-earned and communities are increasingly affected by the polarization surrounding them.
Mark’s career offers another reminder: relationships built over years can become a community’s greatest capacity for getting things done.
That may be one of the most important lessons of his story. Great local government leadership isn’t simply about knowing what to do.
It’s about building enough trust to actually do it.
This episode is sponsored by Tyler Technologies, the leader in empowering the public sector with software solutions that connect data, streamline operations, and improve service delivery. From AI to budgeting solutions, Tyler helps local governments build stronger, more resilient communities. Learn more at tylertech.com/winter →
The MLDC is where local government leaders go to grow, together. It’s the fastest-growing leadership development community designed specifically for the public sector, now paired with a comprehensive 9-month Leadership & Culture Program for those ready to elevate their leadership and their organization. Learn more at haltingwinter.com/mldc →
The HaltingWinter Podcast shines a spotlight on the people behind our cities and counties. Through candid conversations with local government leaders from across the nation, host Seth Winterhalter explores the journeys, challenges, and ideas shaping stronger communities while inspiring the next generation of public servants.