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Episode 380 of The HaltingWinter Podcast
Sponsored by Tyler Technologies

Early in his career, Brent Trout was the city administrator of a community of roughly 900 people.

Budget. Planning and zoning. Public works. Utilities. As Brent puts it: “You do it all.”

But what happens when the organization grows?

Today, Brent is County Manager of Harnett County, North Carolina, helping lead an organization spanning 25 departments. And the leadership required at that scale looks very different.

You can’t know everything. You can’t be involved in everything. And you certainly can’t lead everything yourself.

In Episode 380 of The HaltingWinter Podcast, Brent shares what he’s learned about making that transition: creating clarity without micromanaging, empowering department leaders without abandoning accountability, and building the communication rhythms necessary to keep a complex organization moving together.

We also explore what good customer service actually looks like when the answer to a resident has to be no and why expertise creates a responsibility to make government easier, not harder, for residents to understand.

If you’re leading a growing organization, or realizing the way you’ve always led isn’t going to work at the next level, this conversation is worth your time.

Episode 380: Brent Trout: You Can’t Do It All

Watch the full conversation on YouTube or listen to the audio version below.


Tyler Technologies

This episode is sponsored by Tyler Technologies, the leader in empowering the public sector with software solutions that connect data, streamline operations, and improve service delivery. From AI to budgeting solutions, Tyler helps local governments build stronger, more resilient communities. Learn more at tylertech.com/winter →

The Municipal Leadership Development Circle (MLDC)

The MLDC is where local government leaders go to grow, together. It’s the fastest-growing leadership development community designed specifically for the public sector, now paired with a comprehensive 9-month Leadership & Culture Program for those ready to elevate their leadership and their organization. Learn more at haltingwinter.com/mldc →


The HaltingWinter Podcast shines a spotlight on the people behind our cities and counties. Through candid conversations with local government leaders from across the nation, host Seth Winterhalter explores the journeys, challenges, and ideas shaping stronger communities while inspiring the next generation of public servants.